You said "...get them in jail and invite more pig repression on their scenes...." This is the worst kind of banality and only serves the pigs. If everyone thought like you nobody would do anything. It's akin to saying "work within the system" when the system never lets one have a chance.
Go to the Denver Post web site and really look at the comments in the section after the stories covering this action. Yes most of the comments suck; but it did provoke thought on the part of many people who looked at the action and commented upon it. Unlike some actions I have seen the results of this one reached an audience that would have been difficult to reach doing other more traditional things as is evidenced in some comments in the Denver Post Web site.
I do not look at the action as petty vandalism. I do not look at the money donated as money spent on the state. Let me ask you what you think of as examples of "good" resistance? What have you done?
Come on, you guys are making a charismatic figure of someone who did some petty vandalism and got a slap on the wrist for it? And you're doing fundraisers to give money to ... the state. Arent anarchists against the state? So why are you helping fund it? All this money you're pissing away could have been used for more constructive programs, hell, there are political prisoners who did a lot more that could use those funds. And furthermore, you're glamorizing this petty vandalism and encouraging other angsty nihilistic kids to do similar acts that are only gonna get them in jail and invite more pig repression on their scenes. Don't get me wrong, its good Ariel got off, but please encourage more useful ways to spend your time.
just called for more info
someone is supposed to call us back next week about it
super cool hope it happens
watch out for updates
hearts from junktown
oh they'll see it, if they haven't already.
i for one would support them 100% percent from down here in lil'D-town.
that the red pill saw this up! I'm sure they could coordinate some amazing programming.
I just received an "assessment invoice" in the mail, dated 7/1/09, with a letter stating that I need to pay the 2009 Special Assessment fee by 2/28/10. Is this invoice legit? Do I need to pay the 174.00?
A lot of this seems like liberalism: an inability to simply distinguish who has power, only to fall back on a bianary moralism. Obviously, the main contention in the world isn't between various kinds of religious fundamentalism.
I plainly state I support Hamas. Afterall, they are the ones who are resisting. It's seems like a place of privilege to play lip service to supporting a given struggle, only to denounce the main groups leading it. I even question how much you support Palestinians, given that your strategic line on the issue ("Neither One State Nor Two States But No States" and your explicit stance against Palestinian nationalism) is completely Western, alien to Palestinians and even contradictory to the gist of their struggles. Your position seems completely opportunistic and chauvinistic.
I find your condemnations of Hamas as hilarious. On one hand you parrot Fox News, the Israeli State and Alex Jones (saying that Hamas uses human shields, making bad jacketting implication about connections to Mossad). On the other, you supplant a 'anarchist' dogma onto the situation in a way that suits your own world view (moralistic abstractions about the 'rulers and ruled.') On the real, I tell people that a person's support for Hamas, support for those actually resisting the imperialist-backed settler state, is a measure of if that person actually supports the Palestinian cause.
You say that Hamas 'opportunistically seized power.' I have to ask, is power just dangling on a string, waiting of one authoritarian ['oh my!'] or another to "seize" it? I suppose if Hamas had not of seized power, and the comprador PA retained power (the only other serious contender), this would have suited you.
Generally, "solutions" are something realistic, something that, through great struggle, can be attained. What you offer isn't solutions. You offer a moralistic fantasy that is "right." In the end, you don't support the Palestinian cause because you nit-pick it to death and base it upon conditionalities. It's not like your position is unique to the Amerikan psuedo-left either. United for Peace and Justice, 'Communist' Party USA, various Trotskyists and virtually all of the old 'New Left' basically carry the same position: supporting an abstract resistance on the part of Palestinians but not actually support their resistance. Congrats. You're a liberal in the waiting.
while i agree with others that you're post is totally racist, i think your general rhetorical point, whether i agree with your overall positionality on the matter or not, is that we must be clear what we are supporting, and must not wash over the authoritarian, patriarchal, and misogynist tendencies of others. to make a blanket statement regarding Palestinian or Arabic people would be inaccurate and inappropriate, but it would be equally inappropriate to pretend that politicized Islamic extremism is any less fucked up than, say, the authoritarian, patriarchal, and misogynist tendencies of politicized Christian or Zionist extremism (or Hindu or Buddhist extremism, for that matter [yes, that's right, there are Buddhist extremists]).
it is important to be clear on what we support, and what we oppose. standing in solidarity with the people of Gaza who are being brutalized at the hands of Israel does not mean supporting extremist Palestinian militants who opportunisticly seize upon crisis to gain political power (many of whom are also directly involved with Mossad and Israel in black ops). it is also important to remember that not all Palestinian militants are extremists and this stereotype is used to delegitimize and marginalize non-extremist and even secular resistance. the same goes for Israel. there are many dissenting Israeli citizens who oppose the actions of their state.
i am reminded of something that came out last year called "Neither One State Nor Two States But No States":
Statement from the Manchester branch of the Anarchist Federation on the Gaza war
One thing is absolutely clear about the current situation in Gaza: the Israeli state is committing atrocities which must end immediately. With hundreds dead and thousands wounded, it has become increasingly clear that the aim of the military operation, which has been in the planning stages since the signing of the original ceasefire in June, is to break Hamas completely. The attack follows the crippling blockade throughout the supposed ‘ceasefire’, which has destroyed the livelihoods of Gazans, ruined the civilian infrastructure and created a humanitarian disaster which anyone with an ounce of humanity would seek an end to.
But that’s not all there is to say about the situation. On both sides of the conflict, the idea that opposing Israel has to mean supporting Hamas and its ‘resistance’ movement is worryingly common. We totally reject this argument.
Just like any other set of rulers, Hamas, like all the other major Palestinian factions, are happy and willing to sacrifice ordinary Palestinians to increase their power. This isn’t some vague theoretical point — until recently most deaths in Gaza were a result of fighting between Hamas and Fatah. The ‘choices’ offered to ordinary Palestinian people are between Islamist gangsters (Hamas, Islamic Jihad) or nationalist gangsters (Fatah, Al-Aqsa Martyrs brigades). These groups have shown their willingness to attack working class attempts to improve their living conditions, seizing union offices, kidnapping prominent trade unionists, and breaking strikes. One spectacular example is the destruction of Palestine Workers Radio by Al-Aqsa Martyrs brigades, for “stoking internal conflicts”. Clearly, a “free Palestine” under the control of any of these groups would be nothing of the sort.
As anarchists, we are internationalists, opposing the idea that the rulers and ruled within a nation have any interests in common. Therefore, anarchists reject Palestinian nationalism just as we reject Israeli nationalism (Zionism). Ethnicity does not grant “rights” to lands, which require the state to enforce them. People, on the other hand, have a right to having their human needs met, and should be able to live where they choose, freely.
Therefore, against the divisions and false choices set up by nationalism, we fully support the ordinary inhabitants of Gaza and Israel against state warfare — not because of their nationality, ethnicity, or religion, but simply because they’re real living, feeling, thinking, suffering, struggling human beings. And this support has to mean total hostility to all those who would oppress and exploit them — the Israeli state and the Western governments and corporations that supply it with weapons, but also any other capitalist factions who seek to use ordinary working-class Palestinians as pawns in their power struggles. The only real solution is one which is collective, based on the fact that as a class, globally, we ultimately have nothing but our ability to work for others, and everything to gain in ending this system — capitalism — and the states and wars it needs.
That this seems like a “difficult” solution does not stop it from being the right one. Any “solution” that means endless cycles of conflict, which is what nationalism represents, is no solution at all. And if that is the case, the fact that it is “easier” is irrelevant. There are sectors of Palestinian society which are not dominated by the would-be rulers — protests organised by village committees in the West Bank for instance. These deserve our support. As do those in Israel who refuse to fight, and who resist the war. But not the groups who call on Palestinians to be slaughtered on their behalf by one of the most advanced armies in the world, and who wilfully attack civilians on the other side of the border.
WHOEVER DIES, HAMAS AND THE ISRAELI STATE WIN
I have read your letter on why you voted for H.Res. 867, and I find it both troubling and evasive. I have been an admirer of yours in the past, but that admiration has dissipated. I absolutely cannot understand why challenging and investigating war crimes should "drive people away from resuming negotiations toward a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict." What people? And what will be the basis of those negotiations wireless internet providers? You say the death of innocent civilians must end. How can that happen if those deaths--many of them paid for by our tax dollars--are papered over and ignored by our representatives in Congress? You say you deplore inflammatory rhetoric. Have you read the Goldstone Report? It is a long, sober, and meticulously-researched document by one of the world's most eminent jurists. It contains no rhetoric of any sort. Truthfully, it seems to me that you know very little about this issue. That being the case you should not, in good conscience, have voted at all. I live in Boulder and I understand that my opinion need not concern you. (Jared Polis's response to my questions was to e-mail me the Abraham Foxman ADL handout that apparently served as the only research he bothered to do). Still,you must be aware that after the bloody and terrible events of the previous century, the world's most honorable thinkers--with the United States in the forefront--concluded that humanity's last, best hope was international law. To deliberately weaken that law as you all have done is to invite further bloodshed and chaos.
and that's probably why they asked how to make it happen.
Join us in solidarity with the
GAZA FREEDOM MARCH
We have joined forces with the Social Action Council of the
First Unitarian Church
1400 Lafayette Street, Denver
Thursday, December 31
6:00 pm - Indoor Vigil
Presenter: Gary Anderson, a civil engineer, who has lived and worked in Palestine and other Arab countries for some years. He was involved in water issues in Palestine for much of 2002-2007 and from late 2005 to early 2007 lived in Ramallah, managing a water distribution project in Gaza.
There will be music and refreshments followed by a
March down Colfax Avenue
PLEASE HELP US SHOW SUPPORT TO END THE SIEGE ON GAZA
Co-sponsors: Friends of Sabeel-Colorado; Aware!; Colorado Palestinian Community Network; Colorado Jews For a Just Peace; and others
Please Bring Flashlights, Glow Sticks, and Signs
For additional information and advocacy resources on the Palestinian- Israeli conflict:
"Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land" Watch it online: http://pppl.org/
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At what point are existing social relations altered on any level besides subreformism and lifestylism?
We are anarcho-syndicalists on the shop floor, green anarchists in the woods, social anarchists in our communities, individualists when you catch us alone, anarcho-communists when there's something to share, insurrectionists when we strike a blow.
all this revolutionary/insurrectionary theory is just a bunch of fucking clicky ass in-fighting i mean the goverment doesnt even have to worry about a revolution because we are all to busy bickering over which theory will bring the masses in to revolt whether it be anarchism, maoism, communism, socialism, or what ever the fuck else you wanna identify as
i agree with tillitbreaks about needing everything for revolution from the stone chucking mob of angry youth to crowds of non-violent protesters whatever it takes to support your struggles get those yappy liberals to donate to your cause or start those stupid ass petitions whatever it takes to build, start, and spread the fire because in "theory" it will all burn
one last thing actions like this maybe useless and make 'working-class' people disenchanted with your struggle but you also inspire stupid kids like me to stand up, take a chance and keep fighting so lottsa love to fort collins keep up the good work
also hearts to tillitbreaks and everybody else with the courage to do the best they can to smash capitalism and the state
in solidarity and struggle + love from junktown
The GJ location has got a large unmarked building with a gated parking lot, four white vans with US government plates. There is no 'yard' so anyone detained there would have no chance for fresh air. There was no fence or barbwire. Very low key. Few cameras. Minus the federal vans it would be impossible to notice.
The point is revolution, not "acts of rebellion." It seems really childish to adulate minor acts without incorporating them into a realistic strategy and analysis for revolution (the kind that requires an actual revolution). In the end, the empty insurrectionist blathering sounds little different than the stale "working class" dogma.
Third issue is due January 1st but probably will be pushed back a month.
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til it breaks offers so much solid analysis I can't believe it. When does issue three come out? Do you need help? : )
to ariel attack!
seriously one of the coolest people in Denver. ariel is AWESOME.
Yay! Glad to hear the deal worked out so well for you!!!! Ariel you're a fucking OG.
the wellspring of insurrection is either in the points of rupture present in society--the discontent of the tenant, clashes between police and people, struggles of the workplace, the rebellion of students--where anarchists can intervene through non-vanguardist methods to deepen and spread rupture while rejecting forces of mediation and recuperation, or else in our own daily refusal of the social order and what it foists onto us--namely boredom, alienation from our neighbors, the feeling we are spectators of our own lives, so on. at least, those are the theories that have been gifted to us, and we're not ready to burn them just yet.
"We want smashed prisons and the destruction of capitalism, not just windows--the question is how do we create moments in which insurrection is possible?"
either insurrection is possible in every moment, and is primarily a question of our consciousness and actions, or else it is impossible for us--as pro-revolutionaries isolated from the masses--to create moments of insurrection, and we must instead locate the moments that have been created by the inherent conflicts present in society, and then position ourselves in these territories for the purpose of attack. again, these are some positions that insurrectionary theory has taken.
it is crucial that insurrection consists of actions which tend toward generalization rather than isolation. the invisible committee argued that insurrection spreads by resonance rather than contamination; how well, then, does the sight of a boarded-up window at the bank resonate? how about the witnessing of a bank robbery?
it is interesting that in the week that the abovementioned bank was attacked, no less than fourteen banks were robbed in Denver. it seems there is something almost generalized about attacks on banks. neither expropriations nor attacks, however, not even robberies in which the money is burned, will destroy capitalism just like that. if we were asked what tactic is best, our favorite might be the method depicted in Lil Wayne's video Got Money--a bank robbery followed by the willy-nilly gifting of the money onto the asphalt. but really, we would have no strong preference except that they be generalized.
any of these actions, carried out broadly, are destructive of capitalism, at least, that's what we think. better yet, all of these and other rebellions including debtors' strikes, workplace occupations, and gardens, if generalized, would destroy capitalism. cool.
but the logic of generalization, if taken too far, leads toward some of the comments above. one might suggest we need open attacks rather than clandestine ones, or "the working class revolution" rather than attacks on banks (which are not valid targets because working class people work there[??!?]), to be doing it Correctly. we want open revolt and secret destruction, working-class power through petty vandalism, and whatever else is fun and sexy.
it is far too easy to criticize others, and the One True Revolutionaries just want us to rally behind their banner, their ideology, their way of doing things, what they used to call their Party.
"In an excessive perspective of liberation there are no such things as superior forms of struggle. Revolt needs everything: papers and books, arms and explosives, reflection and swearing, poison, daggers and arson. The only interesting question is how to combine them." -- At Daggers Drawn
so, let us take these contradictions--intervention versus refusal, generalization versus clandestinity, revolution versus vandalism--and not let ourselves become bound up trying to resolve them, but let their tensions act as a springboard into joyful insurrection.
mad love to all who attack capitalism, however incompletely, and desire to destroy all government rather than "change" (=steer) its fatal course,
crazy love to the 3 or 5 people who read this shit,