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IVAW March on the DNC -Big Noise Films-

August 31, 2008 by Anonymous

Protests against the Democratic National Convention continued Wednesday as members of Iraq Veterans Against the War led an unpermitted march to the Pepsi Center to call on Barack Obama to back an immediate U.S. withdrawal from Iraq. The march began at a concert by the rock band Rage Against the Machine sponsored by IVAW and the Alliance for Real Democracy. Rick Rowley of Big Noise Films files a report from the streets.

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ashamed

September 2, 2008 by Anonymous, 43 weeks 4 days ago
Comment id: 857

The last time I checked, Obama did fully support immediate withdrawal from Iraq.....how much sooner could we possibly pull out without costing even more lives?? I'm ashamed to see Indymedia back something like this. Obama is the best candidate we've had in a long time and he's still not good enough? It seems like all of the energy expended at this ridiculous protest could have been channeled into something much more constructive. These are the kinds of things that make liberals look foolish.

Liberals?

September 2, 2008 by richardmyers, 43 weeks 4 days ago
Comment id: 858

I can respond only for myself, i don't speak for Indymedia:

I'm sorry, but the apparent assumption that the political arena is divided into conservatives and liberals demonstrates the shallowness of this anonymous commenter's world view. Liberals are responsible for continuing the war by fully funding it, even when they have control of the purse strings. Liberals (read: Democrats) are complicit in defending the two party system against any possibility that a third party could gain traction, by such nefarious methods as excluding third party candidates from debates, and such mundane processes as erecting hurdles to third party registration.

Liberals are part of the ruling elite. Consider, it wasn't the Republicans who, even with total control of the executive branch and its veto power, nonetheless championed NAFTA-- it was liberal William Jefferson Clinton. Liberals routinely exclude the voices of working people from the social conversation, meanwhile supporting the policies that send their jobs overseas.

And please don't quote statistics about how many delegates were union members. When it comes to purging the union movement of progressive tendencies for the sake of corporate profits, liberals have frequently been as vociferous as conservatives. For decades the mainstream union movement has acted as the boss's junior partner, favoring policies that disenfranchise the real economic power of working people, even embracing the foreign policy goals of the CIA. (I've been a union member for 39 years, i should know.)

And with only a few exceptions, liberals participate willingly in the obscene legal bribery that we call election finance, in exchange for which lobbyists for the corporations write our trade, safety, and employment laws. Under liberals as well as under conservatives, Congress tends to act as a rubber stamp for whatever big business desires.

Would i prefer Barak Obama to John McCain? Yes, probably. Do i have any illusions that much will change with Obama in the White House? No, not at all. I anticipate that the elites of this country will still embrace neo-liberalism, class warfare against working people, sweatshop economics, and a militaristic foreign policy (Obama's opposition to the Iraq War notwithstanding.)

There are some Democrats that i respect. Unfortunately, their politics, their philosophies, and-- in some cases-- their political careers have been marginalized-- and frequently, sabotaged-- by the Party.

I'll work alongside Liberals toward some goals, but i'm not a Liberal. Again, these are a sampling of my personal views, i don't speak for Indymedia.

richard myers

re: ashamed

November 19, 2008 by Anonymous, 32 weeks 3 days ago
Comment id: 2087

Action is always better than no action. There will always be dissent when there is a capitalist who has profit interests via some war. Obama promises to get us out of Iraq, then possibly into Syria or Pakistan, almost absolutely.
Furthermore, the anti war sentiment must not only continue into the Obama administration, but the vocabulary must shift to that of anti-globalization. Indy Media has a responsibility to you, not to glorify a lesser of evils, but to promote this kind of direct action that exposes what other news sources will have us forget; we still have, even as of nov. 4th, a military presence in Iraq. These kinds of protests are good exercises of dissent until we no longer need them. I'm certain that I'm ashamed of your pacifist attitude more than you're ashamed at Indy media.

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