Two vehicles set on fire

Two US government vans parked outside a military recruitment center in Fort Collins, CO were set on fire a couple of nights ago.  The extent of damage is unknown.

These wars go on and on.  We read about the dead.  Across an ocean and their names are not spoken here.

Kimya Hamid

Aji Agha Pather

Fereshta and her brother Ali

Rahmet Wali

Nejeba Mohd

Faisal Karim

Habdul Wajad

Malik Nabi Jan

Fatima Sarajiddin

Saya Begum and her sister Rayhan Begum

These flames are our way of remembering.

 

We fight here.

Good

I want to see more actions like this one. Protests conducted within the system are futile and have gotten us nowhere its time to really resist this mess that is our social order and life. It's time to stand up for what we know is right. War for corporate robber barons needs to end. Be careful whoever you are that did this. Know that I and others stand with you but also know that the state has no heart and will destroy you if you are caught. Good work my friend.

Just curious, but how does

Just curious, but how does anyone thing this will help end the wars?

peace here, war elsewhere

I know it was a typo, but I couldn't help reading your question as "how does any one thing help end the wars?"

Which would be a silly question, because of course every small act of peace, every refusal of violence, every prayer said for the people in the Middle East, every dollar donated to Obama's campaign, every button worn and bumper sticker stuck and sign held, every commitment to pacifism, every incantation of Ghandi's name, each and every one thing helps bring the wars to an end.

Acts of violence like torching government vans at recruitment centers, on the other hand, are precisely a participation in war.

Kumbaya, folks.

Not all of us are pacifist

Not all of us are pacifist. I personally believe that much of the abhorrence expressed about violence is almost pathological. We, minorities, the poor, and the non-capitalist, are subjected to violence on a scale that defies expression.

At any given time in America over 100,000 people sit in solitary confinement, a form of torture.

America has 4.7% of the worlds population and 25% of all the prisoners on the planet! Cops kill people, DA's destroy families and wrongly prosicut thousands.

Some estimate that out of the 2.4 million people in America that are in prisons as I write this that 7 to 11 percent are factually innocent.  That's 140+ thousand to 260 thousand lives and does not include people on parole or probation.

I have seen the effects of the states violence first hand. I also personally believe that the philosophy of non violence is used by the state as a way to control opposition. I would like to believe that tactics like Gandhi's would work but I do not think in this day and age the will.

talk is cheap

The anonymous writer states, "...every small act of peace, every refusal of violence, every prayer said for the people in the Middle East, every dollar donated to Obama's campaign, every button worn and bumper sticker stuck and sign held, every commitment to pacifism, every incantation of Ghandi's name, each and every one thing helps bring the wars to an end."

While there is nothing wrong with doing these things, they will not end wars.  Those who want to make war will do it unless they are actually, physically stopped.  Sometimes, you have to fight fire with fire.  

Sometimes we have even suspected that if war is elsewhere, then

We realize we're coming a little late to the party.  Apparently it's the fashion these days.  At any rate, in regards to the above...

Some of us were taught at a young age that violent video games would have the effect of molding us into violent little people.  Living in a nation whose soil, we've been told, has not been touched by the blood of a war for over a century, the glass ball of peace is so precious and fragile that our consumption of certain spectacles of blood might lead us to shatter its perfection without quite knowing what we are doing.  Unable to distinguish our real lives from the virtual lives we enact, we might suddenly find ourselves with weapons at our schools, cutting down teachers and peers with all the coolness of playing Doom...

It is true that a distinction can no longer be made between spectacle and "real life," that "in real life" has become another internet acronym, that spectacular capitalism has blurred our perception such that life tends to resemble the moments in which we dream but do not sleep.  But the spectacle of violence does not make us violent.  It does not desensitize us to violence.  If anything, it distances us from violence.  War is always happening elsewhere.  We know nothing of war, as they constantly remind us.  War--always one and multiple--has been on our plates, since childhood, in what musn't go to waste.  In this affluence, this inexhaustible source of war.

The ones who wrote the communique, did not say they would end war or wars. They said they would fight here.  Here: that is, the place where war is not supposed to happen.

If you were talking to me...

I was responding to the commentator,the one I quoted, not the author of the original article. Sorry if this was not clear.

You are correct in saying that original author did not say the action would stop war.

evidence please?

Did anyone bother to take a picture, call the press, put out a communique, anything?

How do we know if this is real? Pictures and descriptions would help. I have been

looking around online for some confirmation that military vehicles had been torched in

Fort Collins, Colorado, and have found nothing thus far.  

Only one car fire reported

The only car fire I can find was reported in the Coloradoan, and it was a man who is allegedly mentally ill who set is own car on fire:

"Man arrested in downtown Fort Collins car fire." By Nate Taylor, dated March 3rd, 2010.

coloradoanDOTcom

If a van is torched and nobody takes a photo does it still burn?

"Did anyone bother to take a picture, call the press, put out a communique, anything?"

Not knowing anything about it, I would say it is risky for the doers to call the press, and also--to a lesser extent--risky to take a picture.  If there's no story then the press chose not to run the story when it happened or the police did not report to the media.

The above is a communique. Note the use of "we."

How do we know if anything is real?  Whence this compulsion for evidence?

some research

I looked at the Ft Collins Police Website and didn't find much. Somebody can put in a records request to them. However, check this out:
Police Seek Information in Vandalism to Patrol Cars

Fort Collins police are investigating two recent incidents of vandalism to patrol cars which occurred within the past two weeks. The first incident occurred on February 12 in the vicinity of Timberline and Trilby Roads; the second occurred on February 18 near Harmony and Ziegler Roads. In both incidents unknown persons etched obscenities on the body of the vehicles as well as broke windows on one of the patrol cars while the cars were parked overnight. Entry was not gained into the interior of either car and nothing was taken. The cost to repair the vehicles is likely to be several thousand dollars. These types of incidents whether to police vehicles or private citizen cars is not only inconvenient but costly to the vehicle owners.

Fort Collins police are asking citizens to watch out for each others property, to be observant of unknown persons in your neighborhoods, and to report any suspicious circumstances or incidents of vandalism or police promptly.

from httpx://fcgov.com/police/news.php?id=3139

The Sheriff might have some info at their blotter
httpx://larimer.org/sheriff/blotter.htm

I saw a number of investigations for criminal mischief, but nothing for fire or arson. Somebody could also just call the recruitment center...